Ancient Roman and Greek Coins, page 2    (return to page 1)
 

There can't be many around--aren't they all in museums?

Actually, there are many around. If you live in the United States it is hard to realize how common it is to dig up really old archeological artifacts in England, France, Spain, Italy, Greece, Bulgaria, Serbia, Turkey, Syria, Israel, Jordan, Lebanon, Egypt, Iraq, Iran, Tunisia, Libya and other a dozen other countries where ancient coins are found. If you were a collector in England, you would see ancient coins for sale in every coin shop because they find them in the ground--sometime in hoards of thousands together. Museums get first pick (and pay market value in England, but not other countries), but most finds are duplicates of types already in the museums, so the coins go on the market.

Nineteen amphora full of coins found in 2016 in Sevilla, Spain. Workmen were doing routine work on water lines under a street when they stumbled across 80,000 Roman coins. 

This is not an unusual occurrence. 

Next is the "Frome Hoard" found in England in 2010 in the middle of nowhere (not a previously known archaeological site) by a metal detectorist.

 

 

 

A huge pot had 52,510 coins, which were removed layer by layer. Of course, the vast majority were duplicates and of no interest to museums which already have many examples, so they went on the market.
 

What were the coins like?

 

 

 

 

Some of the 52,510 late third century Frome Hoard Roman coins. Many show little wear and they clean up nicely. Newcomers may wonder how coins that are almost 2000 years old can be in such great shape. Well, two thousand years buried in a pot does nothing to wear down a coin!


Why are there so many big hoards? 

Do you or your parents have a retirement account or a savings account? Does it have a lot of money? The ancients did not have Charles Schwab to put aside money into invisible stocks and bonds. If they put money aside for later, it was real money, often lots of it, buried in some secret place.

Remarkably often these hoards remained secret and were not retrieved in antiquity. Many stayed buried until found in modern times. You might think most of what could be found has been found. Nevertheless, large hoards keep turning up.

 

 
The largest hoard ever found in Britian was the Cunetio hoard of 55,000 coins. It was found here (Photo of the site by Roger Bland):


Where? 
     That's the point. Hoards are often found in the middle of nowhere--not pre-exisiting archaeological sites. 
 

Are you saying there were a lot of coins produced in ancient times?

Yes.  There are many scholarly articles that discuss ancient-coin production. For example, one issue of Roman Republican silver denarii from 82 BC is particularly easy to study because the dies were engraved with consecutive Roman numerals from 1 to 419 (Over 3200 extant examples of that one issue have been photographed and studied). The conclusion is the output of Roman Republican denarii in 82 BC was on the order of 30 million coins. That's just one year and does not count the large output from the many Greek mints operating that year. Scholars are convinced that the output of coins each year under the late empire was many times that large. In the 300's the Romans had up to sixteen large active mints simultaneously. Probably billions of coins were produced in antiquity. Many still survive.
 

If they are found over there, how can I buy them here in the US?

There are coin dealers in the US who specialize in ancients. Lots of collectors and dealers buy coins over there and bring them back here. After all, coins are small and easy to carry across the Atlantic! Also, it is easy to buy from British and European dealers on the web and they will mail them to you.
 

Aren't they very expensive?

No, they're not. Well, some are. You can spend $100 or $500 on a great coin if you want, but very many interesting low-grade ancient coins are available for about $5-$15 each. Some of the most common ones can be found in very attractive condition for $10 to $40. 

Prices are, of course, set by supply and demand. If you want a great coin, supply is adequate. However, if you want an excellent late Roman (3rd - 4th century) coin, supply is huge and demand is not. There aren't that many collectors. Consequently, prices are low. 

 


Designs. Unlike modern coins, there is a huge number of different designs. Roman coins usually have a head in profile on one side (the obverse, the "head" side). It could picture a Roman or Greek god


 

Apollo / Chariot on a Roman Republican silver denarius (20mm diameter) struck 86 BC. Jupiter drives the "quadriga" (four-horse chariot). Apollo wears an oak-wreath. Just below his neck is a thunderbolt.

 

 

Ancient coins depict many animals.


 

Lion, radiate, holding a thunderbolt in its mouth, on a silver coin of the Roman emperor Caracalla (sole emperor 211-217 AD). His portrait and some of his titles are on the obverse. This denomination, introduced in 215 AD, is technically called an antoninianus, but also (more simply!) called a "radiate" because of the radiate crown on the emperor's head which distinguishes it from the silver denarius which had been minted for hundreds of years.

 

 

The next reverse shows a goddess.
Macrinus / Diana

 

Diana, the huntress, known to the Greeks as Artemis, depicted in a short hunting skirt, with her bow and arrow and her hound. The coin is a "Roman provincial" copper piece (28mm diameter, substantially larger than a quarter, and with a lovely green patina) struck for Macrinus, Roman emperor 217-218AD, at Nicopolis ad Istrum (Bulgaria). The legend is in Greek and names Macrinus (2:00 - 5:00) on the obverse.

 

 

Roman and Greek coins often show battle scenes.

This is a quarter-sized copper coin of Constantius II, Roman emperor from AD 337 to 361.
Roman imperial coins have legends which name the emperor and give some of his titles. This one that says "DN CONSTANTIVS PF AVG" which you can read around his head.
On this reverse is a battle scene with a very large foot soldier thrusting his spear downward into a smaller (Persian) horseman who turns back to ward off the spear as his tiny horse falls and begins to tumble over its head. The reverse legend

FEL TEMP REPARATIO

translates to "Happy times are restored!" or "Happy times are here again!

The "ANH" below the ground line is a mint mark of Antioch, one of the largest cities in the empire.
This is a common coin, available for $25 - $60 in excellent condition, and $10 in lesser grade, but still okay.

 

Women are on coins.


Julia Domna (d. 217) was the wife of Septimius Severus (193-211) and powerful in her own right. This is a denarius. 18 mm. 
IVLIA AVGVSTA  (Julia, empress)
SAECVLI FELICITAS  (happy age) Isis suckling Horus.

 

 

There are a huge number of other designs.  

Many Greek coins are beautiful. 

 

A silver stater of the city of Corinth, struck c. 350-315 BC. 
21 mm. It has the diameter of a nickle, but is thicker. 

Pegasus flying left
Athena wearing a Corinthian helmet tipped back.

 

 

 
Alexander the Great changed the Greek world. Before Alexander, most coins were minted by individual cities with types distinctive to the city. After Alexander the Great most Greek coins were minted for kings, and many Greek coins have good portraits of the ruling king.

A massive tetradrachm of Alexander the Great (336-323 BC), struck in Babylon while he was there.

A tetradrachm. 26-24 mm. Larger than a US quarter and twice as thick.

Hercules head right in lion skin (This is not a portrait of Alexnader).
Zeus seated left holding eagle and scepter. His name downwards behind in Greek.
 

 

 

Many Greek coins picture animals and birds such as lions, horses, eagles, stags, snakes, crabs, and dolphins are common too (You can even find an octopus!). Many Greek coins picture animals. One common type that seems odd to modern sensibilities is this large Greek coin minted in the city of Pergamon.

Remarkably, snakes are common on ancient coins. Here is a coin where snakes dominate the type.

A silver "cistaphoric tetradrachm" (30-26 mm, much larger than a quarter) minted at Pergamon in Turkey c. 123-104 B.C. after the Romans created the Province of Asia. Some numismatists have called this the ugliest Greek coin type. Certainly the snakes are not appealing. (But they are interesting.) The obverse has the "cista mystica" or sacred chest with a snake crawling out and the reverse has two snakes around a bow case. Needless to say, snakes played a role in the local religion, and pages could be written on what role the snakes played in the cult. The mint name is abbreviated into a monogram "Pi epsilon rho" [PERgamon] on the left of the reverse. This type was issued in vast quantities from numerous Asiatic mints.

 

But there are hundreds of unusual and interesting types -- far too many to be mentioned here.


How can I find a dealer who sells ancients?

I recommend the "ancient-coin mall," vcoins.com and my own small site, augustuscoins.com.  The mall has over 100 dealers at one site and a very good search engine. If you want to buy fixed price coins, try it. Many ancient coins are offered on eBay (go to "Coins" and then "Ancient"), but do not buy there without reading my page about eBay first. Be aware that some (many) eBay coins are fakes and many are mis-described. You need to be very careful with eBay.

Here is a page of links to dealers. You will see there are very many! Ancient coins are historcial, beautiful, and fascinating, but they are not rare.
 

You say they are common. What do you mean by "common"?

There are many tens of thousands of genuine ancient coins on the market as you read this. Coins of some Roman emperors are in substantial oversupply, so that there are far more coins than collectors, keeping the price of those coins down. Coins of some emperors are occasionally available by the hundreds at a time at major wholesaler's shows because people keep digging up large hoards of those coins. Those types of coins are available every week (almost every day!) on eBay. Some coins are outstanding, but many issues are so common in middle and low grades that dealers have more than they know what to do with. Low grade Roman coins can be bought by the thousands. Some types are common in excellent condition. Such coins are priced low and serve as great ways to start the hobby of collecting. However, you would eventually find that some of the types you desire are scarce or rare -- and then they cost more, of course.

Commemorating the foundation of a new capitol city, Constantinople, under Constantine the Great and named in his honor.
18 mm. Struck AD 333-334.
 CONSTANTINOPOLIS
"Constantine's city." [This is the obverse legend. You can see the suffix "POLIS" in English words referring to cities, such as metropolis."] The city is now the largest city in Turkey, named Istanbul. The obverse bust is not of Constantine, but of the city herself, personified as a helmeted warrior with a scepter (denoting power) over her shoulder.
The reverse shows Victory with her foot on a tiny ship's prow. It commemorates a naval battle which secured the site of the city for Constantine. This type has a fascinating story and is of historical importance, but you can buy one cheaply because many were minted and many are still available today. Palm branch in field left.
TRS in exergue, for the Trier mint, second officina (workshop). RIC Trier 563.

 

Greek coins are not as common as late Roman coins, but some attractive Greek silver types are occasionally found in hoards of over a hundred pieces and it is fair to say that many attractive ancient Greek coin types are common. For more comon types, see here.
 

I won't be able to read the legends.

Yes, you will. Roman legends are in Latin which uses our usual A, B, C, ... alphabet. Many of the words will remind you of English, and all you have to do is learn the most common names, titles, words and abbreviations that appear on coins. There are not that many.
Greek coins generally have very short legends naming the city or King, in Greek. Greek has many letters like ours, but some have different letter shapes (for example Δ (delta) for D). You get used to it quickly. Or, you can stick to Roman coins.
 

They are metal, right?

Right. They were minted in silver, copper, or gold. Of course, the lower denominations in copper and silver are more common. Most are from the size of a dime to the size of a half dollar, but thicker.
 

Some don't look perfectly round.

That is the result of the ancient minting technique. Coins were made by using a heavy hammer to strike coin blanks between two dies. Like squeezing clay between your fingers, the pressure often caused the blank to elongate or even split at the edges. (Now, modern coins are forced to become round by striking them inside a round collar.) For example, look at the top edge of the silver denarius (Septimius Severus, 193-211 AD, 18 mm diameter) you saw on the previous page and again here. It is not exactly round.

The Greek silver coin of Pergamon you saw above is far from round.
 

What were they worth?

Small coins were pretty valuable then. Silver and gold were rare and valuable metals and the coins were valued for the metal they contained. In Greek and Roman times, silver coins the size of a dime (that are common today) were worth a full day's pay for a laborer (and most workers were laborers). So, that might be, say, $40 in today's money. You could support yourself and a small family on that. You could buy enough wheat for 25 pounds of bread or 10 pounds of olive oil (28,000 calories of nutrition!) with one small silver coin (a denarius).
 

What do people collect?

Most ancient coin collectors collect Roman coins, and maybe a quarter collect Greek coins. Many start out buying one or two because they are so old, and then they delve into the history. Roman coin collectors like the stories of the emperors and often try to get one of each emperor. You can find excellent portraits of over 30 different emperors and Caesars (and some of their wives and mothers) for less than $50 each, some for much less.

By the way, from Augustus (27 BC - 14 AD) to the "fall" of Rome in the fifth century AD there were about 70 emperors acknowledged at Rome, all with portrait coins, and another 100 or so sons, wives, mothers, and usurpers with portrait coins.

Of course, many collectors settle on a more limited time period. I have a friend who concentrates on the second century, another who concentrates on the fourth, one who collects Roman Republican, one who collects Byzantine coins, one who collects Greek silver coins, one who emphasizes coins of the ancient Near East, one who prefers Roman coins of the "middle bronze" denominations, and I know of a collector who concentrates on coins of a single emperor! I know one who collects coins from each city that St. Paul visted on his travels. There are many possible themes (Republican coins, Christian reference coins, military types, gods and goddesses, mythological types, animals, etc., etc.) -- and no one will tell you what you are "supposed" to like!  

If you want to get a set, consider getting portraits of each of the "12 Caesars" (Julius Caesar through Domitian). My first long-range goal was to get a set of the 70 rulers from Augustus to the fifth century who were recognized at Rome (minus a few that were too expensive). A set of five coins of the "Five good emperors" of the second century would be easy to complete. The group could be supplemented later with coins of the wives and relatives for whom they minted coins.

Probus, 276-282 ADMany collectors like to emphasize a particular denomination, for example, the radiate silver coins introduced by Caracalla in 215 and issued by numerous emperors and Caesars until 294.


Here is a high-grade $30-$70 coin of emperor Probus, 276-282 AD, to the right. 23 mm diameter.

 

 

Collectors like the history. Roman coins are government documents that often combine history with portraits. Reverses may refer to victories (Marcus Aurelius, 141-180, notes "VIC GER" for a victory against the Germans on this coin), the emperor's travels, the emperor's family, governmental policies, donatives, or other contemporary events.

Marcus Aurelius. A large 31 mm sestertius. Victory inscribes "VIC GER" on a shield.
     [Click the image for more about that coin.]

 

 

Greek coins do not lend themselves so easily to completing sets. I have heard of people wanting one coin from each city St. Paul visited. You could collect one beautiful coin from each mint city in Sicily. There are many potential sets, but no particular set is well-known and heavily collected like the run of Lincoln cents or Morgan dollars. You could make your own list of coins and aim to complete it. But, if your strongest desire is to collect something where you can "fill that last hole" in the collection, I don't think Greek coins are for you.

Many collectors answered this question on an e-mail list. I have assembled the fascinating (written) answers here. I assembled an illustrated page of possible themes here. Here is a link to a long thread on CoinTalk where collectors showed coins that fit various themes.


My budget is very limited. Can I collect nice ancient coins anyway?
 
Yes. Many pleasing Roman coins can be found for $10. $20 can buy some truly excellent coins from the fourth century. Many small Greek silver coins from before 400 BC (old!) can be found under $40. Coins of Constantine (307-337) and his relatives are very affordable. Copper coins of the later Roman emperors from AD 364-450 are particularly common and inexpensive. Here is a link to a major site listing those late Roman AE coins. Most of the illustrated coins can be bought for under $20 each.  There are, of course, rarities, but you can make a good start on a representative collection of the emperors and types in a short amount of time for a very limited amount of money. 


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